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| − | Hi All,
| + | ==Proposal for Contents Lists== |
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| − | Perhaps we should have a discussion about some standard layouts/data for the various topics? Then we'll end up with a house style consistent (hopefully) across the wiki.....[NB]
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| − | Help here for uploading images: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Managing_files [NB]
| + | Guiding principles for Pages: |
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| − | Comprehensive Table help here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tables [NB]
| + | # Always make a page if you want a page, don't wait until there is a good structure to hang it on |
| − | :Links moved from Main Page
| + | # Every page should (ideally) be reachable by browsing from the main page in 4 clicks or less |
| − | * [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings Configuration settings list]
| + | # If the structure starts looking messy, change it (with consultation), don't wait for major clean-ups. |
| − | * [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ MediaWiki FAQ]
| + | # Try not to make too many levels. Only include a heading or page when there's is something in it. Empty pages are very frustrating. |
| − | * [https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce MediaWiki release mailing list]
| + | :Yes, like it. [[User:Flora1871|DJJ]] 10:38, 25 November 2011 (UTC) |
| − | :--[[User:Flora1871|DJJ]] 07:17, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
| + | By the way - I like "other" better than "Misc" but I think we are getting a bit messy on the front page. "Westerly Yachts" seems a strange heading for something about the company and is confusing compared to "Westerly Classes". I'll have a think. [[User:Julian|Julian]] 09:17, 25 November 2011 (UTC) |
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| − | With regard to the Statistics table I think it would be best to fit as many columns across the page as we can. Otherwise it's going to push the rest of the content off the screen and force people to scroll down. It would probably also be good to do some Zebra striping on the table but we'll need the stylesheets in place to do this....[NB]
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| − | :Added Windrush to table. Are there any more? [DJJ] | + | ===At the article level sections could be:=== |
| − | Need Yanmar and Volvo pages expanding - volunteers? [DJJ]
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| − | I've come to the conclusion that we need a better list of classes than just alphabetical. Probably organised by length with some annotation for Centre Cockpit, Ketch etc, etc.....[NB]
| + | :1 to n article specific sections. For example very generally before, during and after sections. |
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| − | Yes would work but think less than 25 ft should be less than 26 feet because Centaur is really in this league. [DJJ]
| + | :Resources Section – containing web links to suppliers of materials or services |
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| − | Tim has added facility for embedded files anmd external links. Can we now upload files?
| + | :References Section – containing cross reference to WOA Journal issues and Magazine articles |
| − | also does any one know what we need to do to establish CSS stylesheets [DJJ]
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| − | David - what do you want CSS for? its probably better to use wiki markup and keep things simple unless you have something specific in mind but I see the CSS extension is installed and the instructions are [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CSS here] [[User:Julian|Julian]] 21:54, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
| + | This should generate a table of contents if the article structure demands it. |
| − | :Nigel suggested we use CSS. Must say so far defaults seem ok [[User:Flora1871|DJJ]] 02:15, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
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| − | With regard to CSS I'm thinking about the stats tables and perhaps doing some zebra striping; cleaner with CSS. If want to change the look of the thing we can do it globally via the CSS rather than having to rework each page. [[User:Birchn|Birchn]] 07:44, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
| + | See examples of both above set up under Centaur |
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| | + | == Going Live == |
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| − | == suggestions for pages ==
| + | New Sections |
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| − | Bob said to me "I think that a short piece on Robinetta could be appropriate to the wiki in an historical context as it reflects the evolution of Rayner's thinking leading to the creation of Westerly." How about a page called "Before Westerly" that covers Robinetta, the Corvette and Westcoaster? We need to come up with a structure for the front page that allows this, and other historical pages to be linked. [[User:Julian|Julian]] 22:08, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
| + | Added a header to collect material about lif in the Westerly Yard - "Westerly Yard Scrapbook". Subject was suggested to me by a Boatline member. |
| − | :I have revised the contents list following the WOA Forum topics but providing separate pages for items such as Deck, Sails and Rigging because I think a Wiki will have more long term content in each area than a forum where the postings at any given time can share an area. Also added a Before, During and After Westerly Section under Miscellaneous Topics.
| + | Could provide some fascinating glimpses of the Westerly Yard and maybe some unique pictures. |
| − | --[[User:Flora1871|DJJ]] 08:43, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ==Guidance for New Contributions ==
| + | Also suggest we add a template for a picture gallery so we can collect and display more pictures about each class. |
| − | Contributors should endeavour to review the best avilable information on a topic and submit a digest of that information to the Wiki. Prime sources of information will include personal experience (preferred), magazines, the WOA Web site and discussion groups such as WOA and Yahoo. Material should not be lifted verbatim rather a digested version should be presented in the Wiki. There are generally several alternatives approaches or opinions about any task and Wiki contributors should endeavour to identify these alternatives and provide hooks (follow on pages)to the alternatives even if the information is not available to the original contributor. Someone else can later add that information. Reprints of chatty PBO type articles are not recommended because this is not Wiki style and the "How I did it" article which is suitable for a magazine is generally just one view and the Wiki needs to recognise alternates.
| + | [[User:Flora1871|DJJ]] 14:43, 8 December 2011 (UTC) |
| − | --[[User:Flora1871|DJJ]] 08:43, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
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| − | I would caution us from thinking too "because this is not Wiki style". Just because we have a wiki, and just because its mediawiki doesn't mean we have to be like Wikipedia. David's guidance is good, but we don't really know our audience yet and all sorts of things might end up being of interest. I'd prefer we avoid trying to have too strong an editorial interest in '''what kind of contribution''' is appropriate. My personal feeling is we should avoid copying things available elsewhere, but introduce other resources and link to them. Its really great WOA is hosting this and not making it members only, so lets link to members only resources in a welcoming way and promote WOA, and lets link to other resources too. [[User:Julian|Julian]] 07:38, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
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Proposal for Contents Lists
Guiding principles for Pages:
- Always make a page if you want a page, don't wait until there is a good structure to hang it on
- Every page should (ideally) be reachable by browsing from the main page in 4 clicks or less
- If the structure starts looking messy, change it (with consultation), don't wait for major clean-ups.
- Try not to make too many levels. Only include a heading or page when there's is something in it. Empty pages are very frustrating.
- Yes, like it. DJJ 10:38, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
By the way - I like "other" better than "Misc" but I think we are getting a bit messy on the front page. "Westerly Yachts" seems a strange heading for something about the company and is confusing compared to "Westerly Classes". I'll have a think. Julian 09:17, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
At the article level sections could be:
- 1 to n article specific sections. For example very generally before, during and after sections.
- Resources Section – containing web links to suppliers of materials or services
- References Section – containing cross reference to WOA Journal issues and Magazine articles
This should generate a table of contents if the article structure demands it.
See examples of both above set up under Centaur
Going Live
New Sections
Added a header to collect material about lif in the Westerly Yard - "Westerly Yard Scrapbook". Subject was suggested to me by a Boatline member.
Could provide some fascinating glimpses of the Westerly Yard and maybe some unique pictures.
Also suggest we add a template for a picture gallery so we can collect and display more pictures about each class.
DJJ 14:43, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
